Forum: Remembrance
Topic: Fast Becoming A Lost Footprint
started by: Angie

Posted by Angie on Mar. 02 2001,1:22

Is there anyone out there that is the same belief as I that Pearl Harbor is fast becoming a lost footnote.

WE shall never forget that day of INFAMY.  Is there some way to lobby congress or the President and offically endorse forever on every calender in every paper a national day of rememberence.  Does anyone know if there is a move to get one or try and start one?

Thank you,


Posted by Angie on Mar. 02 2001,1:24

I belong to Sons & Daughters of Pearl Harbor Survivors Assoc.  We will make it our quest in life to assure that that day will never be forgotten.

Joan Mecteau

Posted by John Burch on Mar. 05 2001,12:59
I am a fortynine year old American citizen...the name Pearl harbor has always had a "special" meaning to me. Over the years..."time" ...Iam sorry to say has somewhat dimished the meaning to others.

The reason for this is only one...our educators and the revisonist movement in or schools today. This day, December 7, not only the day that we entered the most serious conflict that the free world would be in...but it was also a major turning point by our country, in becoming a world leader.

We need to be active in the keeping the memory of all these brave men and women that put it "all" on the line. How easy we forget ! Or should I say how easy some would like us to forget.

I would like to thank every last one ....from that great generation. All that did their job, with no fan fare. All that did it ...and didn't come home. I fear that the world will never have a generation like them again.

We have a bad habbit of taking some things for granted. we do need to "wake up and smell the coffee"

 Pearl harbor will always be more than just a name to me ...thank you...all of you.
                                              John B.

Posted by USSBOWFINSS287 on Mar. 10 2001,7:46
Yes, it is true, that we, as a country, are guilty for "forgetting" the past!  Not only do we need to remember Pearl Harbor, we need to remember Bunker Hill, Lexington, Gettyburg, Fredricksburg, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, Persian Gulf, etc!!
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it!  Although we have not always been the "good guys", I still think that there are things worth fighting and dying for and am grateful for the men and women who have served and sacraficed for our country!

Americans have been accused of being egotists, proud, whatever you want to call it...but there is NO COUNTRY in this world I would rather live in!  GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

Posted by deepbee on Apr. 09 2001,7:27
I came across this board by sheer chance and was disturbed to find a post suggesting that Pearl Harbour could become a lost footnote in history.

OK, lets get a few things straight.  Firstly I'm from the UK.  Secondly I'm only 41 so was not born until after the end of WWII.

I find it almost upsetting to think that there is the prospect that part of a war where so many people gave up their lives for me to live in freedom should be consigned to history's footnotes.

If those people had not been prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice then I and countless others would probably not be here today.

Do they deserve to be remembered.

In my humble opinion.


Posted by ben e fox on Apr. 10 2001,2:03
This is a very important web site because it presents not only a source for the hard historical data that some find value in and which helps understand the "how" but also a forum for trying to resolve the "why."  There are several of the most accomplished "pure" historians contributing to this site that could be found on any topic, anywhere.  They have their approach to history, and it is a valid and required contribution to the "how."  There are also some who visit and contribute from the emotional need to form an emotional link with a person (" father (or grandfather, or uncle) was lost on the Arizona, can anyone tell me anything about him..."?)  or an event which for Americans altered the direction of their nation and changed its perception of the world and its place in it, and that alteration effected the rest of the world like few other events have.  That is not, as objectively as it can be considered, merely a chauvinistic view, although even if it were, it would still have value for Americans. China had been at war for ten years, and especially since 1937, and Britain and its commonwealth, and much of Europe, since 1939.  Two hours of battle and the death of 2,588 people did not start or end the war, and did not statistically effect its outcome.  Millions had already experienced the loss and pain that 2,403 American and 185 Japanese families would feel that day, and unknown millions more were still to know it in the four years which followed.  Pearl Harbor did not begin the pain and waste, and it did not end it, but it did something, not just for America, that altered history.  April 19, 1775, was a similar event.  When that small band of militia stood on Lexington Green and fired on the King's soldiers, it was not just the beginning of a war, it was the beginning of the end of the thousands of years old acceptance of the Rights of Kings and the next step in the elevation of the value of the individual.  We might forget that date, and the names of those who were there, but the world will not forget what they did there, because instead of passing from the mind or fading like a footprint from wind and water, each day slowly extends the concept of the freedom that they fought for to people who have never heard of their sacrifice.  Like Pearl Harbor, in another hundred years, the evidence of their footprints may be lost to view, but the evidence that they passed, and altered the world for the better, will only become clearer.

Yamamoto's statement about Pearl Harbor, "I fear we have only awakened a sleeping giant," may be apochryphal, but in a larger sense, the awakened giant was not just America, it was the conscience of mankind, and it isn't fully awake yet, but it is stiring.  As Lexington was the natural next step after the Magna Charta, and it took time, Pearl Harbor and what came after, was a progression from both, toward the final end of the Rights of Kings.

It has been said here that Pearl Harbor will be forgotten in a hundred years, because that is the "memory of man."  That may be a valid assessment in the context of names and hard historical facts, or it may have been stated as a challenge to remember, but in a larger sense, history will disprove it.

In a hundred years, the footprints may have faded and have been lost to the eye, but the fact and effect of the  passing of those who sacrificed will be indelible.  The tapping on sunken hulls may no longer be audible to the ear, but it will be as unmistakeable to the heart as the plea, prayer and warning that echoes from the death camps, the forests of Poland, the jungles of Cambodia, the plains of Africa and a thousand other places...Remember me, never forget, never allow it to happen again, never allow the frailty of memory make my loss and sacrifice for you be in vain, I gave you my youth and my life, like others, I fought for freedom against those who fought to enslave.  It will take more time, it will be done.  I gave my youth, use it, we are one.

Pearl Harbor and what they did there will not be lost or forgotten.

Posted by USSBOWFINSS287 on Apr. 11 2001,10:04
Let me say that it is WONDERFUL to have the "Tommies' view" on things as it pertains to WWII history!!

Ben, I agree with you that there are a diverse bunch that congregate here, and for that I am thankful!!!

Thanks, everyone, for sharing their knowledge, experiences, views and opinions!  While we may not all always agree, it is good to be able to "have our say" and receive feedback!

Posted by Fortress on Jun. 04 2001,12:04
   This is truly one of the most touching and thought provoking assessments I've ever read.  Thank you so much!
Posted by Joan Mecteau on Jun. 04 2001,7:02
It's up to us to see to it that the footprints stay fresh. It won't be hard if we all work at it.
It's been almost 2 yrs since I first discovered the board Angie had before this one. It lit the spark in my real interest in Pearl Harbor. It has been my shoulder to lean on through my father's illiness and his death. I try to visualize what it was like for him on that day.
I only saw dad cry twice in my life.The first is when they handed him a flag that had flown over the Arizona on the 50th aniversary of the attack.The other was when he received a thank you card signed by a 5th grade class from the other side of the country.Until then he had always said" the young kids today...they don't know where we fought or what for". I wish he could be here today and see this board.
Posted by Angie on Jun. 06 2001,7:51
Hello Joan,

Thank you for allowing me to put the picture of your Father holding a USS Arizona flag at the top of this Forum.   Please tell us about him in a new Topic.  I, for one, would love to hear the story.

Thank you,


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