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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 19 2001,11:30  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

One of the areas with little or no discussion is that of the OS2U Kingfisher aircraft on the battleships that morning.

Only three of the 'wagons' had their aircraft onboard that morning. The West Virginia, California, and the Oklahoma. The ones on the West Virginia were destroyed in the fire. Of the three on the California, 2-0-4 was taxied to the Naval Air Station on Ford Island after the attack, 2-0-5 was tossed overboard as a "fire hazard", and 2-0-6 sustained minor damage, yet remained onboard. The Oklahoma's planes were lost. But two days after the attack, one of these planes was raised, and various parts salvaged including the engine.

But what remained of the other battlehsips aircraft? Were they all on Ford Island, and how did they fair out.

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Well I have the book BATTLESHIP:ARIZONA by Paul Stillwell and there are 2 photos on pg 225 of an OS2U Kingfisher maneuvering alongside the ARIZONA on Sept 6, 1941. (National Archives photo 80-G-66108 and 80-G-66109) You can't see the battleship but it's pretty clear where the photo was taken from her.  It's a B&W shot and I know the color gestopo will come after me for saying this but the plane is all blue on top and grey under the fusalage. White star on wings and fusalage have the red dot in the center and the number on the side of the plane 1-0-3. Individuals in photo are pilot Ensign  Lawrence A. Williams and and Radioman Third Class Glenn H. Lane. Lane survived Dec 7th - Williams did not.
Don't know about other battlewagons.  My guess is the battlewagons got the OS2U the cruisers got the older scoutplane - who's designation escapes me tonight and I am now to lazy to look up.

Photos I've seen from Ford Island show quite a few OS2U which I assume are the ones from the BB's. But shots are too distant or unclear for me to tell you what ships they are from.

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Hi Chris, I have an interesting story about the Maryland's VOS planes.  I don't have the paper in front of me, but it was one of our casualties.  They were all at Ford Island NAS, when LT(jg) James Ginn got his radioman, and late in the attack or shortly after it, took off from Ford Island heading SW acting on radio reports to find the Jap carrier force.  Shortly afterward, the plane ran out of fuel and crashed 10 miles Southwest of Oahu.  Both men were rescued but LT. Ginn died of his injuries later on.  As far as I know, this was the only VOS plane of all the battleships to get into the air, I think it was 4-0-2.
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Aloha All,
The two kingfishers that got into the air just after the attack...one (OS2U-3 BuNo 5285) was from USS Maryland, the other USS Pennsylvania...drew the "pie" shaped sector south to the west of "The Big Island" of Hawaii thence west and back north to Barbers Point where Lt Ginn ran out of fuel. The gunner got the Navy Cross for his rescue of Lt Ginn, though Ginn later died of his injuries.
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Aloha All,
Of interest to the Kongfishers of 7 Dec 1941, the OS2U-1 varient which the fleet got in July 1940 had been replaced in late Fall 1941 by OS2U-3 varients. The famous photo series of the three OS2Us being brought aboard USS Arizona are of OS2U-1: BuNo 1695 1-O-1; BuNo 1696 1-O-2; BuNo 1697 1-O-3.

The OS2U losses of 7 Dec 1941 reveal the replacement of OS2U-3 varients was accomplished:

USS West Virginia: BuNo 5326; 5327 VO-4
USS Tennessee: BuNo 5305 VO-2
USS California: BuNo 5353 VO-2
USS Nevada: BuNo 5294 VO-1
USS Oklahoma: BuNo 5288, 5289, 5290 VO-2

and USS Maryland Lt Ginn's BuNo 5285

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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 14 2001,9:31 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Am I right in thinking this is one of the Kingfishers being discussed?

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/images/23-0130a.gif

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You got it Larry, the plane on the right just behind the wrecked wing of a PBY.
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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 15 2001,12:38 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I stared at that picture for a long time.  I was wondering what the two guys on the left were thinking.  Maybe just stunned.
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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 15 2001,5:08 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

For the person wondering where the battleship OS2U's  were - There's a flock of  Kingfishers in this view near the hanger on the left.

(Edited by Rod Dickson at 5:10 pm on April 15, 2001)

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In this picture (same as posted earlier):

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/images/23-0130a.gif

There is a BB fighting top in view on the right of the flames.  Is this TENNESSEE?

Anychance a good photo-wizard could take a clear overheard view of the harbor and put the ships in their proper places for the date in question?  While I'm wishing, how about a user-sensitive map that would pop-up the ships' names when you wave your mouse over it?  (I know, "...and see which hand fills up first.")

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