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Sorry to have to ask such an elementary question, but if you don't know, you just don't know!

When I see accounts mentioning the #3 turret or the # 2 turret, I can't visualize where these are.

Were all turrets numbered the same?  Did the numbering begin at the bow?  Could someone explain how they were laid out?

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"When I see accounts mentioning the #3 turret or the # 2 turret, I can't visualize where these are."

Numbering is fore-to-aft on USN warships.  Assumption is your talking about a main turret unless otherwise noted.  The battleships had turrets for their secondary 5" guns, I don't know of anything other than "Starboard #3 5" turret" or the like to designate those turrets.

Interestingly, some of our carriers were designed with 8" gun turrets.  This is rather like putting a battering ram on a dozen eggs.

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Cindy,   As mentioned, turrets are numbered or named from bow to stern in most navies.   In the U.S. we use numbers, in other navies they use letters or names.  
The secondary armament guns are designated by the caliber and then the position; with odd numbers on the starboard side and even numbers on the port side.   For example; "Mount 51" would be the forward most 5" gun on the starboard side and "Mount 52" would be the forward most 5" gun on the port side.
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Thanks for the information.  My knowledge of naval terminology is rather limited, and I'm trying to remedy the situation with the help of you nice people!  

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Additionally I should mention that there is still a minor running debate as to just what constitutes a "turret", as compared to a "mount".  Some say that the mere existance of a gunhouse or full enclosure makes it a turret.  Others claim that the guns in a turret are on separate slides and those of a mount are on the same slide.  Still others say that the difference is in how the guns are fed.  So as you can see, even among naval enthusiasts, terminology can still be a tricky thing.
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"So as you can see, even among naval enthusiasts, terminology can still be a tricky thing."

Too true.  Then there is the matter of evolution.  A particular item may be referred to by one name early in its career, and that name could change as it ages.  Maine and Texas were "battleships" until something better came along.

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A thought !!! ( something new for me ! )
With all of the active, former, and retired navy types viewing this forum, and the good number of people new to ship stuff and the terminology; Maybe there should be a section on the board for exactly that.   "General Naval Questions" or something in that light.   What do you think, Angie ????

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The secondary armament guns are designated by the caliber and then the position; with odd numbers on the starboard side and even numbers on the port side. For example; "Mount 51" would be the forward most 5" gun on the starboard side and "Mount 52" would be the forward most 5" gun on the port side.

A minor late comment on this--I also believed that secondary mounts on battleships and cruisers were designated Mount 51, 52, etc., but in looking at quite a few action reports in the last few years I have never seen that terminology--it is always just No. 1, No. 2, etc., with the odd-numbered mounts to starboard and the even-numbered mounts to port.  I think the Mount 51, 52, 53... designations were only used by destroyers, and perhaps other ships with a 5-inch main battery.

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Keith, your observations may very well be true.   My naval experience dates as of 1975 and we all know how things evolve.   During WWII the individual gun mounts may have been designated strictly by a mount number, (i.e. Number 1, five inch gun, or Number 2, five inch gun, or Number 1, three inch gun).   Additionally, the systems used may have varied by type and class of ship.   I can't say for sure, and have never had the opportunity to ask one of the older veterans.
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