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When reading through my copies of the logs of the ships, I can't help but notice one particular entry on many of them that has me asking one question.

For example on the Nevada's sheets...every morning while at sea and at port, at 0900, she would make the entry ..."Made daily inspection of magazines and smokeless powder samples" The California would report the same thing between 1030 & 1149, while the Maryland reports this between 0800 and 1140.

Even the Neosho reports this. I know and understand what Inspecting the magazines would be, but can someone give me a clear meaning of what a "daily inspection of the smokeless powder samples" would consist of? I'm foggy here.

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Hello,

This is just a guess, but it sounds like they were checking random samples to ensure that the powder used in the main guns was not deteriorating.  The battleships used bags of smokeless powder instead of the metal casing used on smaller rounds.  If the powder deteriorated it could cause an explosion.  I believe that there were separate compartments for storing shells and powder, so checking the magazines would not necessarily include checking the powder rooms.  This is probably why both are mentioned.  I hope this helps.

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Hi Chris, My name is Chris too, I was a Gunner's Mate on the Maryland in WWII, and during the attack, I was a Seaman 1st Class.  Even though I was on an anti-aircraft gun, I still had to know about the turrets and magazines.  Smokeless powder was used during the day because after the short fireball came out of the muzzles, you couldn't really tell that the guns fired, so there wouldn't be any "markers" to where the ship was over the horizon.  Regular black powder however was used at night because it made lots of smoke and covered up some of the fireball.  
Anyway, Smokeless powder was especially sensitive, and in the heat of the Pacific, before Air conditioning came around, they would take samples of it and test it daily to make sure it wasn't near a combustible temperature.  the magazines had to be well-ventilated because that stuff was so volatile.  If it was too hot, it would be removed and placed topside to cool off.  It's really too bad that the boys in the Arizona didn't have time to secure the armored hatches leading to the magazines.

I was also wondering, what dates do you have of the Maryland's deck logs?  I haven't been able to find anyone that has pre-Pearl Harbor logs, so if you have some dates that interest me, would you be able to send me copies?   Thank you

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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 14 2001,7:55 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Well you can't get much better then that to answer a question. You hit that one right out of the ballpark. Thanks for the info.
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No problem guys, any time.  I haven't seen any other Pearl Harbor vets around here yet, so if you guys have any questions about anything at all, just post them in the Maryland-Oklahoma section and I'll be happy to answer them.
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Chris (GM3c Chris),

Next time I go to DC for research, I will be happy to copy out any date you wish to have.  Let me know which ones you need.  The decklogs are all in the National Archives out in Maryland. An incredible source of data, too.

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(Edited by Mike Wenger at 5:09 pm on April 16, 2001)

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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 16 2001,5:44 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Mike:

Are there any places to find copies of logs from US Subs in WWII?  It would be interesting to find some from ships that my uncle served aboard!

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I guess all the REALLY COOL people on this MB are named CHRIS!!  LOL!!

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Chris,

Deck logs, war diaries, patrol reports, and action reports can be obtained from the Navy Historical Center in most cases. A few have been sent over to the National Archives, but most submarine documents are still at NHC.

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Hi Mike,  Thank you.  All I'm really looking for right now is 22 June 1940 and 28 November 1941.  Thanks Again.
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From my experience from getting logs from the USSATLANTA and USS JUNEAU several years back is that you will get microfilm reels with a certain amount of monthly logs. I don't think they copy individual dates. If they send you microfilm you can easily utilize the microfilm reader at a city  or college library.  
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