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In my recent reading, I've seen both ships referred to as a "flagship."  Perhaps I'm not understand the title.  Which was the "flagship" of the Pacific Fleet?

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Hi Cindy,
A flagship is one whose captain has a guest on board of Admiral rank...the number of stars on the flag reveals the Admiral's rank. USS Pennsylvania was the flagship for Admiral Kimmel except when he moved his "flag" ashore [as on 7 Dec 1941]. Other ships in the harbor had flags of other Admirals.
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On Dec. 7th Enterprise was flying Adm. Halsey's flag, USS Chicago was with Lexington and flying Adm. Newton's flag.  USS Indianapolis had Adm. Brown on board.  
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That's good information, thanks.   So, because Adm. Kimmel was Cincpac, the Pennsylvania would have been considered the flagship of the Pacific Fleet?  Is that correct?  (Sorry if I'm being dense.  Navy protocol is something I'm having to learn here. :) )
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Hi everyone, I can clear this up.
The USS Pennsylvania was Flagship for the entire U.S. Pacific Fleet, with CinCPac Kimmel on board.
The USS California was the Flagship of the Battleship Battle Force, with V.Adm. William S. Pye on Board.
There were also flagships of individual battleship divisions, I'll post them for anyone's interest.

BATTLESHIP DIVISION 1
Arizona (Flag), Oklahoma, and Nevada

BATTLESHIP DIVISION 2
California (Flag), Tennessee, Pennsylvania

BATTLESHIP DIVISION 3
(Transferred to Atlantic, 1941)
New Mexico (Flag), Mississippi, Idaho

BATTLESHIP DIVISION 4
Maryland (Flag), Colorado, West Viriginia

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I don't think Kimmel officially shifted his flag ashore.  Letterheads still showed "CinCUS" on Pennsylvania.
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