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"Unlike the other battleships caught off guard, she was the only one able to get underway during the attack. She was moored upcurrent from Arizona so she was saved from the burning oil fires and got underway at 0840. The intent was to leave the harbor and make for open water but at 0850 near 10-10 Dock she was targeted by Vals from the second wave of attacking aircraft. The Vals picked her out specifically since she was the only moving battleship and so received at least five bombs."


After getting underway, she was beached to prevent sinking as shown here.


This information, image and more on the USS Nevada can be found at this terrific site.  Please pay it a visit:

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/4289/Nevada.html


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Another view NEVADA in the distance - I believe taken from the control tower on Ford Island. I suspect after the attack rather then during or between the first and second waves.

Pearl Harbor photos are sprinkled throughout NHC site.
Sometime you gotta to move a lot of rock to find a diamond.

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Rod,

I have the NARS negative numbers for a series (of which this is a part) of 11 photos.  Have been having trouble getting the reply to load from the house.  Wil try again at work tomorrow. Incidentally, the image were taken from the watertower, not the control tower.

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Thanks Mike - You know it really is irritating that photos out there are some times out of sequence or one of a kind you expect to be in sequence- like the one below- (not Pearl Harbor related) - but irritating because you know more then one had to have been taken (who would climb a tower to take one picture - instinct would tell you a photographer would try for a panorama shot.
I know I would)
Sorry photo below is off topic- but enjoy (note small a/c off starboard of 'very big ship') - my gut tells me there are more -possibly one closer.

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Rod,

The original National Archives caption on the mount card for 80-G-32505 is for 8 December, not 7 December.  This is verified by the appearance of certain vessels not present during the day of the raid.

Actually, this photo is part of an eleven photo overlapping 350 degree panorama taken in the late morning (or early afternoon), from the Ford Island water tower, not the control tower- which lay much further to the north.

The National Archives negative numbers are as follows:

80-G-32500 These look southeast towards 1010 Pier,
80-G-32502 the dry-dock areas, and the Navy Yard.
80-G-32505    

80-G-32504
80-G-32505 These look southwest toward Hangar 6.
80-G-32506

                    These look northwest over the utility a/c
80-G-32507 on Ford Island.  Chester and Salt Lake City
80-G-32481 (Enterprise’s screen) lay in the background,
                    which establishes the date as 8 December.

80-G-32482
80-G-32483 These look northeast over Battleship Row.
80-G-32499

This series is one of the truly extraordinary photographic records to come out of the raid and its aftermath.  It was also one of the bitterest disappointments that there simply was no space in my book (The Way it Was) in which to put them.  All were cut at the last.

Hopefully this will be informative.  The originals of the photos we ordered are still with co-author Don Goldstein.  I will try and get them and have them scanned for the site.

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Mike- "The Way it Was" Wonderful book. I have so many copies of it that I refer to, and make notes in. Great job! Thanks for doiong it.

There were many photos taken fom atop the Watertower that afternoon, and the following day. However right now, I can't seem to recall if there were in fact any photos taken from the top of the control tower there on Ford Island. Have you seen any?

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Chris,

There are indeed some photos taken from the control tower.  Unfortunately I cannot tell you which ones right now, as all my xeroxing from the National Archives is buried in the attic, or up in Goldstein's office at Pitt.  I really do need to retrieve all that material before it's too late.

Ahhh... the early days at the archives in 1970s!  Free xeroxing, plus they would let you into the stacks to do your own work in the Navy stuff.  Great fun!  I will never forget the first time I went up there.  It was just like Howard Carter looking into King Tut's tomb for the first time!

Thank you for your compliments.  I must tell you that there are indeed a number of errors in the book.  I gave Goldstein a marked copy of the galley that had at least 100 corrections and he NEVER GAVE THE CORRECTIONS TO THE PUBLISHER.  I was livid, needless to say.  I have never been so angry.  I have never gotten Brassy's to put in the changes.. maybe at the next printing.

Those were the days when I didn't glue photo collages together like I do now... of course Brassey's managed to butch some of them up, too... once again corrections never went into the publisher.  I ought to submit some of them to the board.

If you have some specific photo questions, I'll be glad to answer whatever ones you might have.

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Rod,
Concerning Photo #80-G-32505,( posted above ) Yes, it is most definately well after the attack, as the Nevada has been moved from her original beaching point at Hospital Point, over to the Waipio Peninsula.
Thanks for the photo.

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PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 01 2001,10:51 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

How can I find a copy of <i> The Way it Was </i> or access some of these photos?

Also, WHY was the Nevada the only ship that was able to sortie?  

I've read several terrific accounts of Sailors, Airmen and Marines who were thrilled and moved by the Nevada's gallant sortie, and would love to find a book which tells more.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Cindy

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Cindy,

I will be glad to help you.  I am one of the co-authors.

1. Regarding availability of the book, go to www.bibliofind.com and execute an “any word” search for “the way it was goldstein”.  There are at least ten entries there.  Most Barnes and Noble/Borders book stores carry the book also.

2. Regarding the pictures, in my original word processing document for the 2nd wave chapter, I have all the negative numbers for the photographs, and I will be happy to provide you with that information.  Most of the photography originates from the National Archives, although some few come from the Naval Historical Center.

3. When you get your copy of the book, email me the photo designation from the caption, eg. “7-14”, and I will retrieve the negative numbers for you.

4. I would have to tell you that MUCH more exists that what is included in our book.  There is an astonishing series of photos showing the actual dive bombing attack on NEVADA, though unfortunately, few of the pictures show anything of the ship herself.  They are simply photos looking up into the sky, nonetheless identifiable owing to the detail sticking into the very bottom of the images.

5. Unfortunately, I have none (actually, very few) of the original prints here.  Most of them (along with most of my research papers) are up with Donald Goldstein, one of the other co-authors.  The material is scheduled for accession to either Pittsburgh University, or the University of Maryland sometime later this year, and is unavailable at this point in time.  I can’t even get into my own stuff right now, which is frustrating for me as you might imagine.

6. Feel free to contact me offline regarding this request (or any other) at: wengerm@mindspring.com.  Let me know what I can do for you.

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