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To all the "Katies" and "Kristens" out there:

I am so very grateful that this movie has stirred you into finding out more about our country's history!!!  Angie, may I commend you and your "staff" for such a fine job!

It is so very refreshing to hear a teenager say that they feel "pride" when they see our nation's flag!!!  Please remember that pride the next time you are at a high school football or basketball game and some kids (or adults!) are running around, talking or simply NOT PAYING ATTENTION to what is taking place during our National Anthem!

Alot of folks criticize your generation...saying "you just don't care"!  Well, YOU have proved that you DO CARE!!! And I wholeheartedly encourage you to share that "care" with your family and friends!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!


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I Have seen the movie 3 times since it opened on Friday-and I am totally mesmerized by it.
I know that all the facts are not exactly as told-but 1177 men died on the Arizona and that Dolittles Raid was real and it was close enough for me to feel the impact-as far as the love story goes_ Iam sure many boyfriends and girlfriends, husbands, wives and childrens lives changed with the war as did everyones lives-no love story could have relayed that message better-I WILL SEE THIS MOVIE AGAIN AND AGAIN!  I am 53 years old and have seen lots of war movies-but I throughly have a new understanding of the attack on Pearl Harbor-the movie leaves me emotionally drained!  
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I loved the movie.   Was it the best I've ever seen?  No, of course not, but if it lures people in to learn of this incredible piece of history, then I am all for it.

I enjoyed the love story, but I was, of course, there to see the Pearl Harbor scenes.   I thoroughly enjoyed the scenes with Cuba Gooding Jr. and his captain.  I like the fact that we saw the terrible parts of war without having the gore thrown in our faces.  (Sorry, I just can't handle on screen gore.)

I've been to see the move twice all ready, and I'm planning to go again.  It made me proud of the men who gained us our finest hour.  Yes, it was Hollywood, but I'd rather have Hollywood than nothing.  At least the story is being told!   If young people go to see Ben Affleck and learn about our history, what's the harm?  I say get the story out there.  I loved it!! :)

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ussbowfinss287- THANK YOU!!!!! SO MUCH.  You seriously made my day.   I didn't really think that what i thought actually even meant anything to anyone.  And i know this is off the subject but has anyone here ever seen "pt 109"?  
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PostIcon Posted on: May 31 2001,7:56 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Aloha Kristen,
YOU mean a lot to the older generation...
YOUR VIEWS mean a lot to them as well...
Thank you for grasping the flag faltering in the feeble hands of the survivors to "Remember Pearl Harbor" with the new thought toward "Keeping the Record Straight"...
Mahalo nui loa,
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HI everyone,
Well as I expected a love story, that's what I got.  I was VERY dissapointed with the idea that the movie called PEARL HARBOR, actually spent very little time on the attack itself.  The cusory mention of a sub sunk off the entrance to the harbor,  and only two attempts to actually identify any ships.  Many are not aware of the terrible fate that the men of the UTAH were faced with, also capsizing.  It also appears that our "Hollywood Historians" were taking some of their inspiration from TORA TORA TORA.  In the 1970 film, a ship carries hull number 1067, whereas the highest hull number in Pearl Harbor was the USS JARVIS with 393.  But here in PEARL HARBOR 2001, we see the 1062?  And what of the groups of ships nesting together that have NO hull numbers, but just off-grey 3 number squares?  With the new technologies available today, the battle should have been MUCH more convincing and detailed.
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Kristen,

I have the VHS of "PT 109" and think it is a pretty good flick.  I (semi)recently obtained a copy of the book, "PT 109" but have yet to read it...so I can't tell you how "accurate" it is!

There are some very good books (although a bit tedious at times) that discuss the Australian Coast Watchers....who were responsible for keeping much of  the Pacific "eyed" and letting the Allies know when and where to send ships, planes, etc.  One is called,
"Lonely Vigil" by Walter Lord.

I don't have it in front of me, but I believe it mentions in the book that JFK DID NOT remember the name of the Coastwatcher that assisted in rescuing his men.....I am certain he met ALOT of folks during his lifetime, but it would sure be a sad thing to "forget" the name of the man who saved your "can" in the middle of hostile forces!

I trust you will be able to find any number of books, films, videos and other multimedia to "fuel" your "history-fix"!

Happy Hunting!

Chris

P.S.  YOUR post made my day as well! :)


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I saw the movie last night. As a kid in high school all I knew was that it was a bad day for America.( I am now 40.) The movie told me so much more.  As everyone else sat on the edge of their seats, I was too busy wiping the tears from my eyes. I never truly appreciated what Pearl Harbor was all about until I saw this movie.  Thank you & a BIG appreciation to all the men & women who were there. And to all who've been in the service & are still there.  You give us our freedom & so much more. THANK YOU & GOD BLESS!
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Hi everyone.

I saw the movie 3 times.  I was eager for it's release and was there opening day.

I wasn't disappointed.  The love story between the Rafe, Danny and Kate, wasn't what I thought it might be but that wasn't the love story that impressed me.

I think hollywood makes movies and uses composite characters
due to time limitations and compact facts into composite facts.
I felt the movie was overall as accurate as can be given time, effort and limitations.  The CGI effects were excellent.

The 3 times I saw the film the theaters were pretty full and the age range was from small children to senior citizens.  The children watched and were captivated by the film.  That impresses me especially because of the movie's length.  I was never bored and never looked at my watch.  The time zipped by.

Even if the facts aren't exactly correct, the movie has impact on several new generations and as other posters here have commented, they will be seeking out the real story for themselves.  That alone, in my opinion, makes the movie a great film.

The actors all did a fine job and delivered some riveting emotional moments.  I thought the deep love story was really the bond between Danny and Rafe.  The moments they shared on screen and the sacrifices they were each willing to make for the other, we extremely moving for me.  The rescues of men in the harbor that were successful and those that were not, pulled at my heart and brought an emotional realism to the movie for me.
The reason I want to mention the Rafe-Danny bond is, the tragedy of Decemeber 7th, as I have heard survivors describe their views, always mentions the friends they lost that day.
The loss of friends continued for all the military after Pearl Harbor.
Titanic's love story focused on a man, Jack, rescuing, Rose, from her life of empitness.  Pearl Harbor focuses on the sacrifices so many men made and chose to make to keep us all free.  The depth of the type of sacrifice made by our military far outweighs
the depth of the love story in Titanic.  It isn't as romantic, but for me it is much more moving.

There are images from the film I will never forget.  Even if they weren't "exactly correct" images, the use of them had a powerful impact on me.

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The images of the men trapped in the ships so close to rescue but not being able to be saved, ripped at my heart.  I remember from the 50th anniversary one survivor saying the hardest day of all was when the tapping from the men trapped inside the ships
stopped.

What makes me feel the deep love story was between Danny and Rafe are scenes near the end of the movie.  First Rafe doesn't want Danny to even fly the Dolittle mission because of his love for Danny and Evelyn.  Then after they are shot down, Danny flys over and strafe's the Japanese helping his friend escape.  Again, after Danny and Rafe are captured by the Japanese, once again Danny puts his life on the line for his friend.
Danny saves Rafe's life at the loss of his own.

In the closing moments of the film when Rafe gets off the plane followed by the simple pine coffin of his friend, fills me with emotion that is very deep.  It makes me wonder how the men who served at Pearl Harbor and lost their friends there have been able to bear such a great loss.  It also serves to remind me about all the men who have served in our military and made the ultimate sacrifice.  I liked very much that the film makers gave us characters to care about and that gave life to a deep friendship.

I don't cry at the theater when I see films, but this movie brought tears so many times, I gave up and had a good cry.

If the purpose of this film was to be historically accurate, they weren't on target, but if their purpose was to make a film that honors those who served our military and gave their lives and those who survived Pearl Harbor, I think they did an excellent job.  I appreciate that the film "makes me feel" the loss of that day in some measure.  We should be stirred in our emotions and I was very much.

(Edited by pennylee99 at 6:24 pm on June 9, 2001)

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I did learn this past school year about Pearl Harbor in school and Pearl Harbor as the beginning of the Pacific Theater and U.S's entry into WWII. I've been reading through this board, and I'm curious about the rumors that Roosevelt anticipated the attack to enter the war and the amount of truth behind the rumor. I think it was an absolutely dastardly thing of the Japanese to do, and we did bomb the stuffing out of them, but at what consolation? I think it has a lot to do with being general-the general public gets a general understanding of what happened at Pearl Harbor, but that's about it. I thought it was a really good movie, Ben Affleck was an added bonus. Just my two cents :)
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