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     I have seen the movie twice. I thought it was decent. After the movie I wrote the relatives of my cousin who died in Pearl Harbor. It was hard to watch the attack scene knowing that I had a relative die on the utah. I hope this makes more young children aware and proud of our country. To all the young people, I thank you for remembering, and to the compatriots of my cousin Henson Taylor Shouse- F1c USN. Wherever you may be, God be with you.

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Well, as for myself, I've seen the movie twice now.  Here's what I think about it:

The love story....completely ruined the movie.  

Yes, the movie was centered around the actual attack on Pearl Harbor, but the love story was too predictable.  And they concentrated on it too much.  Then again, if there was no love story, no one would have gone to see it except Pearl Harbor buffs.  

More on the ships

The computerized battle was the best I've ever seen in any movie.  But I would have liked to see more on the individual ships, especially the Arizona and the midget submarines.  I know they mentioned to admiral Kimmel the Ward's attack on the first midget submarine, but I would have liked it more if they actually showed the attack.  Would have fitted quite well in the scope of events no one was worried about that fateful morning.  

Buddies to the end

The only good part about the non-combat sections of the movie was (to me) the friendship between the best friends portrayed by Ben Affleck and Josh Harnett.  It was very sad in the closing scenes of the movie, after all they had gone through.  

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I'm amazed that Hollywood has done something historically accurate.  The portrayal of the Japanese was amazing, right on the mark.  The commanders, especially Admiral Nagumo, were portrayed accurately, and the general stance on the Japanese was amazing.  At least these parts of the movie were historically on the dot.

Overall, I want to give this movie 5 stars, but the terrible love story is preventing me from doing so.  I know it made the attack be felt on a personal scale, but I was there mainly for the historical scenes like the battles and events leading up to Pearl Harbor.  Even if you're not a Pearl Harbor buff, I still recommend anyone and everyone to go see this movie, because of its general accuracy and the feeling that it gives someone.  

I will never forget the saddest scenes, as they made me feel like I was actually there and experiencing all the hardships these great men were going through during the attack.  Now I am truly appreciative of the sacrifice these and all other people involved in conflicts have given in defense of our country.  I am glad I have learned this lesson early in my life, but it is not too late for anyone.  GO SEE THIS MOVIE.  It has become my favorite movie, right along with Saving Private Ryan, making you part of the story.  

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Hi all,
I watched the movie a few days ago after it opened nationewide in Australia.  I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it.  As an Asian student, I never really did learn a lot of American history but this movie has gotten me to collect and search everything Pearl Harbour, especially historically. Thumbs up for Hans Zimmer for the music in the movie.

(Edited by Moorey at 11:01 am on June 12, 2001)

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Hi all,
I watched the movie a few days ago after it opened nationewide in Australia.  I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it.  As an Asian student, I never really did learn a lot of American history but this movie has gotten me to collect and search everything Pearl Harbour, especially historically. Thumbs up for Hans Zimmer for the music in the movie.

(Edited by Moorey at 11:01 am on June 12, 2001)

Thanks for posting your comments.  Glad to hear that this movie served to inspire more interest in what happened at Pearl Harbor and in WW2.  

I loved the music also.  Thought it supported the movie well.

As an Asian student you have a unique perspective and I appreciated your comments.

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The New Movie:

The Movie will do exactly what it was supposed to:  Line the pockets of a few folks in Hollywood, CA.

Overall I was left with an empty feeling after it was over..."Is that it?"  While the movie had it's moments, I would not consider seeing it twice.  I would see Tora3 again and again and again.

As a Director of a aviation warbirds squadron, and a Web site owner that deals in historical fact (and having David Aiken as a sensei) I have to say that knowledge when viewing  this movie makes it less enjoyable.  I don't mind so much airplane colours being way off, so much as the Top Gun, and Star Wars elements of the movie.  If you wanted to make a movie that attracts a large audience cross section:  This is it.  If you want truth, pass this one up.

It was enjoyable to see P-40s and Zero's mixing it up, but the basic story itself was flawed, and predictable.  While the Arizona Blowing up was touching...seems to me the bomb ended up in the ship's magazine, not the potato room.

The biggest problem was the style of shooting the picture.  The constant cuts, and shifting of scene was beyond irritating and frusterating.   What good is a panoramic view if 3 seconds later it is gone?  It is not enough time for the mind to absorb all that is seen.

The historical aspects have been discussed many times over...So have some of the other items like the train to England, and colors of the aircraft, the audacity of 2 in a P-40, making out in the parachute hangar etc.  Just didn't happen unless a young 1LT. wanted to lose his job.  Remember getting wings in that time period was bloody difficult.

Will I rent and record the picture?  Sure.  Why not?  Will it beat Tora Tora Tora...no.  Not ever.  THAT picture is what first fueled my passion to know about Pearl back upon it's release.

For those who read this post, I encourage you to look to my site, and the other fine sites by the PHHA.  They will present you with REAL history rather than REEL history.  I was just given 2 hours ago the Life magazine dated 12/29/41.  It features the first photos America saw of the raid.  THAT is touching.  I will post them shortly at us-aircraft.com

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It was enjoyable to see P-40s and Zero's mixing it up, but the basic story itself was flawed, and predictable.  While the Arizona Blowing up was touching...seems to me the bomb ended up in the ship's magazine, not the potato room.

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You must have seen a different movie than I saw.  The bomb for the Arizona went through where a guy was peeling potatos, but showed it ending up where there were shells of some sort and I would guess that was similar to the ship's magazine.

Most of us understand when we see a movie that there are composite characters that are given more than heroic stature and
that all of the facts regarding certain events are not able to be included.  The movie was never advertised as a documentary on Pearl Harbor.

I don't know everything there is to know about the attack, but have read a lot of books about Pearl and I loved the movie.
I thought it, overall, was a direct hit, showing the agony of the attack and as much of the surrounding emotions of the day and aftermath as was possible.

I like movies that make me "feel" what the characters are seeing and going through.  For me, Pearl Harbor packs an emotional punch about that horrbile attack and has increase my respect for all those who have served in our military and survived and for those who lost their lives for my freedom.  It is very personal to me.

Movies are movies, if you want a documentary, this isn't the film to watch.

(Edited by pennylee99 at 6:59 pm on June 14, 2001)

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Just saw the movie again today for the third time and I'm tell'n ya it gets better every time.  But i gotz to agree with ya..... man thoughs p 40's were hella tight.  There are somethings that i noticed though that I didn't notice the first time i saw the movie.  Like petty officer Miller.  He was in second class and he wasn't a cook on Dec. 7th.  In the movie they made it seem like he was a cook to me.  But on that day he was not.  It was still good to see again.  My grandpa and great grandpa both faught in world war II.  My great grandfather was a pilot and flew fighter #### cats.  And my grandpa faught in Watashi Japan in 1954.  
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I must add my agreement with Penny and Kristen.  What this movie made me think and feel far outweighed any small historical inaccuracies.

I am truly sorry that anyone would see this movie and fail to be moved by the telling of this story.  Even with the few scenes there were, it is the closest I'll ever be to seeing battleship row as it was that day.  I dearly love the b&w photos of battleship row that I have, but seeing them so majestically displayed on screen was unbeatable.  

<i>To have watched this movie and come away with only criticism, is to me, to have missed the entire point. </i>  However, I certainly respect the right of any one to disagree, just as I hope they respect my right to be thrilled and moved by this film.

There are things that I'll never be able to do in this life, such as look up and see hundreds of B17s flying overhead or look at a tremendous battle fleet moored at Pearl Harbor.  Thanks to films such as "Twelve O'Clock High", "Tora, Tora, Tora,", and now "Pearl Harbor" I have the chance to do so.  For that, I'm grateful.
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Just saw the movie again today for the third time and I'm tell'n ya it gets better every time.  But i gotz to agree with ya..... man thoughs p 40's were hella tight.  There are somethings that i noticed though that I didn't notice the first time i saw the movie.  Like petty officer Miller.  He was in second class and he wasn't a cook on Dec. 7th.  In the movie they made it seem like he was a cook to me.  But on that day he was not.  It was still good to see again.  My grandpa and great grandpa both faught in world war II.  My great grandfather was a pilot and flew fighter #### cats.  And my grandpa faught in Watashi Japan in 1954.  

Actually, Kristen in the scene where they show Miller with the captain, he is clearing dishes, which is what he told Evelyn when she fixed his stiches.  They didn't show him cooking, but they referred to all those who served in the kitchen as cooks in the movie.

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Wasn't Dorie Miller a steward?  I think that his clearning dishes from the Captain's quarters would be in keeping with the duties of a steward.
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