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Topic: WHERE IS THE USS OKLAHOMA?, LOCATING THE "OKIE."< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
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Well guys where is she? Why isn't she resting at the bottom of Pearl Harbor were she belongs? I want answers. I think if they raised the Oklahoma then why didn't they raise the Arizona and Utah?
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Aloha Tom,
The first responce for "I want answers" is to have the questioner make the trek to Archives II, College Park, Maryland, to obtain those answers as whatever we might say would only garner more "I want answers".

The USS Utah was a target ship. That type vessel was not needed as there were plenty of targets out there called "Japanese". She might be considered as "next" after USS Oklahoma, but cost prevented this.

The USS Arizona essentially had her keel broken and was deemed unworthy to recover. The number of deaths dictated her future.

The USS Oklahoma could be righted and recovered, but the process became so involved that the cost out weighed the result. This sealed the fate of USS Utah. As the "needs of the military" could not be met, the Oklahoma project ceased and she was never restored, then sold for scrap.
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Yes, but where is the USS Oklahoma right now? What is her current condition? Are there any photos of her sinking in deep, blue ocean? Is there any footage, photographs, paintings, ETC., of her sinking at Pearl Harbor? I need the above information.

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PostIcon Posted on: Dec. 18 2001,2:47 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Sir,
at the risk of sounding rude, I believe that you should re-read the first statement in the previous posting by David Aiken.   Then think about it a bit.   Then go into any of the major "search engines" on your computer and type in "USS OKLAHOMA".   The art of doing research, is to do it; not depend on someone else to do it.   Honest effort can be quite rewarding.
To quote Ben Franklin; "If you would be right, read."

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I've been to every search engine looking for more information, there just isn't any interest in the Oklahoma. I guess the only way to get my answers would be to go and dive on the Oklahoma.

(Edited by David Aiken at 5:36 pm on Dec. 18, 2001)

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Tom,
The OKLAHOMA sank in very deep water, some 500 - 700 miles N.E. of Oahu.   I don't believe that any photos were taken of the sinking, but I may be wrong.  There is, however, loads of data and photos on her sinking in Pearl Harbor, and subsequent salvage.
Please be aware that this bulletin board is not anyone's "on-demand" personal research source; but rather a collection of individuals who are very interested in the preservation of the memory ( both personal and technical ) of the events referred to as the Attack on Pearl Harbor.
Demands for info in the future may well be ignored.

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PostIcon Posted on: Dec. 18 2001,4:27 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

This picture shows her port side after she was raised and put into drydock.  It shows a goodly portion of the torpedo damage she received:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h63000/h63917.jpg

During her drydock period, these holes were lightly plated over and a pumping system was installed.  However, during her tow, she encountered a storm which sprung enough leaks to overwhelm the pumps.  The towline parted, she filled, capsized and sank.  To the best of my knowledge, no photographs were taken of her as she sank.

The condition of the wreck might not be what you expect.  Much of the superstructure and equipment, including her guns, were removed during and shortly after her salvage.  So, the wreck is little more than her hull.

See this link for a series of photographs regarding Oklahoma's career, Pearl Harbor sinking and salvage.  It's probably the best collection of photographs of Oklahoma on the internet.  The last one in the series, where she is shown bearthed next to USS Wisconsin, is probably close to what she looked like before being towed out of harbor.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-o/bb37.htm

As far as why she was raised while Arizona and Utah were not, if you closely examine a map showing the entire harbor and where these three ships were located in the harbor, then it becomes somewhat obvious why she was moved.  Perhaps you are unaware of this, but Utah was moved from where she sank to a position closer to shore so as to clear the berthing position.

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I think they raised the Oklahoma because she was blocking the channel. And I know how she looked when they towed her out of the harbor. I just need to know what condition the hull is in physically. Besides the weight of the Oklahoma destroyed most of her superstructure when she capsized. They probably dredged out what was left of the superstructure on the harbor bottom.

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Tom,
As stated by others previously, OKLAHOMA was righted and raised because at the time, it was still a valuable naval asset.    Yes, it was somewhat "in the way", having rolled out toward the channel.   Like her sister, NEVADA, though old she was still valuable.   After the war progressed, she became less important to the war effort, so she was kept there at Pearl and left un-repaired.   After the war scrapping was the best option for the government so she was sold.  
The ship should be remembered, and surviving members of her crew were glad that she sank at sea rather than being broken up.    It is a more fitting end for the proud ship.

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The Oklahoma was raised and was being towed home in 1943 when she sank to the bottom of the ocean where she remains today.
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