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Sometime after the attack, one of the salvaged battleship cage masts was installed on Kuahua Island / Penninsula as a signal tower.  I can't seem to remember or find in my records which ship inadvertantly made that donation.

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Well, it appears that nobody else knows ( or cares ) either.   But since I asked the question, my research has narrowed it down to either the CALIFORNIA or the WEST VIRGINIA.   They were the only two ships that "lost" cage style, main masts during the salvage work in Pearl Harbor.

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Hello Brian,
My name is Glenn. We have dialoged before.
Do you happen to know if the cage masts are still there or have they been removed? Are you aware of any places where salvaged components from the Pearl Harbor attack still exist and they can be viewed? (Yes, I know the Arizona and Utah). Places or objects that are not in the usual lists.
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Hey Brian, would narrowing down the time frame help any? I Don't recall off the top of my head which went in for a major overhaul first but that might help peg down where the mast came from.

I think I need to move to the NARA archives or something.

Also, parts of the Arizona's Superstructure were removed from the ship and "stored" at Waipio Point on Oahu, although it's not accessible to the general public.

"In 1961 the USS ARIZONA was altered once more. In order to place the present memorial over the ship, a section of the boat deck that rested over the galley amidships was cut away. Initially this had been the area of a flag and platform for ceremonies and visits to the site from 1950-1960. This portion of the ARIZONA was removed to Waipio Point where it remains today." -University of Arizona Library

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 07 2002,9:33 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

First off, for Glenn,
No, unfortunately all that remains ( from the last time I saw it ) was a large concrete ring in the ground and very short stubs of steel tubes.   Around Oahu, There is not a lot of evidence of war aside of the remains of the UTAH and ARIZONA,both in the harbor and at other locations, and the numerous coastal gun emplacements (sans guns).   There are still many buildings of that era standing ( Pearl, Hickam, Schofield, et al ), and there are still some of the old airstrips hiding in the bushes of Waimanalo, Wahiawa, and Haleiwa.
Anymore, you really got to dig.
Now, Tracy,
As for the cage mast; I'm not sure when the mast was "installed" on Kuahua Island, but all of the major overhauls on those ships were done at Bremerton, not Pearl.
So, that means that it was either the California's or the Wee Vee's mast.

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Odd bits of information from Wallin's book on the two ships in question:

p. 231, "California remained in dry dock, subject to seventy-two hours notice, until 7 June 1942."  

p. 232 shows her with foremast in place, dated 9 April 1942.  (USN NR&L (MOD) 39748)

(This would indicate that the mast had to have been removed after 9 April and before 7 June, if it came from her, yes?)

p. 242, picture of West Virginia approaching dry dock on (surprise!;) 8 June 1942.  She still has her foremast in that picture.  (USN NR&L (MOD) 39756)

If anybody knows the NHC numbers for these pictures I'd like to hear from you, I need them (and a few more) to complete the Wallin book photos.

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 08 2002,3:24 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I'm unfamiliar with Wallins' book.  Can you give me a complete name and whether or not it's available for purchase?

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Yikes!  Never mind my question, I'm with the program now.  You're talking about Homer Wallin's book.  I should have looked around some more and refreshed my memory before jumping in  with a dumb question.

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For everyone's clarification, the cage mast(s) in question were the main mast, not the fore mast. So, if it came from the CALIFORNIA, it would have been available any time after February 13th, 1942. Should the mast have come from the WEST VIRGINIA; though I don't have a date of the removal, we do know that she did not carry it when she was first drydocked in June of '42.
( I'm still trying to remember where I saw the photo that showed the tower in place on Kuahua Is.)

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Brian

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 08 2002,8:24 Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE

Neither mainmast is in place in the pictures I mention above, so we know neither had her mainmast on the those dates.  I've checked DANFS and Friedman, neither helped. One more place for me to look.

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