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Okay, NHC shows California's mainmast being lifted off on Feb. 13.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h55000/h55038c.htm

and again at

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h55000/h55037c.htm

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 08 2002,10:35 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

For a photo of the mast / signal tower in place on Kuahua Is., in April, 1943, see the following:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k00001/k00569.jpg

So, we now know when it was "there".

And by the way, in that photo . . . that's the WEST VIRGINIA departing Pearl for the West Coast for final repairs.

. . . and the plot thickens . . .

Brian

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 08 2002,11:58 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I've compared pictures of both ships in the '30s from NHC and they both have the same type of mainmast top, so photo comparison will not answer the question.  Somebody send me a ticket to Hawaii and I'll go look through the newspaper archives.  (Two, first class please.)

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The mainmast of the West Virginia was removed on March 24, 1942, nearly 6 weeks after California's mainmast had been removed. I have a dated photo showing her mainmast hanging horizontally above the water after having been lifted off by YD-25. Though this still does not answer the question as to which mast was installed at Kuahua Point, I'm leaning to the California's mast as having been saved only because of the time line. The hunt is still on for conclusive information.

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Ernie,
Personally, I'm leaning toward the CALIFORNIA's mast also, but still would like to be able to prove it.   I am fairly certain that the entire mast height was used; at least that is how it appears in the photos I've seen.  Take a good look at that photo you've got on the WEE VEE's mast and see if it was cut off at or near the deck line or if it was sectioned off higher.   That may tell the tale.

Thanks for joining in the fight and Best Regards,

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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 01 2002,11:36 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Okay, let's try this route;
The tower, in place on Kuahua, is a cage type mast with the old fire control top in place, but no mid-level platform, and no "birdbath".
The CALIFORNIA's mast, at the time of removal, had the fire control top, a mid-level searchlight platform, and a birdbath.
Unless someone else has a copy of the WEE VEE's mast removal, Ernie will have to enlighten us on what WEST VIRGINIA's mast looked like then.
Anyone else who has any of this info is cordially invited to join in.

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Hi Brian,

Today I looked at both photos of the mainmasts and both have the searchlight platform, less searchlights, and the "birdbaths" still attached. So there is no help in that. The only difference I can see is that W. Va. was cut off with a horizontal ring as the base and Calif. was cut off above a ring leaving only the vertical parts of the mast as a base. But I have looked through my photos and found one of the Calif. the day she was put in drydock, 9 April 1942. It clearly shows at least 10-15 feet of the mast still attached to the deck with a horizontal ring at the top!! So now I had to check out what I had on the Wee Vee and I can't see any remanants of her mainmast in any of the four views. So if the view of the mainmast on Kuahua is a complete mast, as you indicated earlier, than the photo evidence now favors the  mast coming from the West Virginia. All we need now is some documantation for conclusive proof. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for checking the photos that you have access to.   Let me back step a bit and apologize for saying that the tower on Kuahua was "full height".   I can't actually say that.  What I meant was that it appeared to be of the majority of the length or height that they were when aboard the ship.   Having not seen any photos of the removal of the WEST VIRGINIA's mast, I was unsure of the length / height of what remained; and was hoping that this issue might give a clue.
We will have to keep at it.

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