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In the Gary Cooper film "Task Force", there is a brief Pearl Harbor sequence in which some Navy wives are playing tennis and innocently think the Japanese attack force is planes from the USS Enterprise -a plausible scenario, due to Big E coming home that day- only to be fired on by some Zero's from the attack wave in which one Navy wife is killed.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this sequence pure Hollywood?

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Aloha Richard,
Guns are on fighters and bombers for offensive and defensive fire. When bullets are headed your way, no one makes a subtile difference in which kind of fire it is, "offensive" or "defensive".

Studys continue to ask whether at certain times and certain areas were there strafing and who were being strafed...in many are the hopes to cry 'foul', if such people being hit were by strafing rather than hit by schrapnel from bombs.

Yes, strafing happened. Who were killed has been listed. Comparison of the wounds to the type weapon shall continue.

...and Hollyweird will continue to side with the most unique senario which they can invent.

Would you like to volunteer to do more document comparisons to make such detailed determinations?
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Da-vid. :-(

No need to pour ice all over my query.  

I am no expert, yes, but I only know of two incidences of civilians being fired on deliberately: at John Rogers airport (which, correct me if I am wrong, was located right next door to Hickam Field and is where Honolulu International sits today?) and a civilian pilot and his trainee that ran into the first wave.
I have heard of no incident that even remotely resembles the incident in "Task Force", which, after all, had the Japanese be the namless, faceless, foe for Cooper and his mates to battle when the flick got to WWII.
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Ouch....Aloha Richard,
My responce was an attempt to recruit you to make the analysis of such records. We well know about Hollyweird making up stories, and PEARL HARBOR (the movie) is just one. We really need someone(s) to make the detailed account of the death vs type of wound at which location, so that we can put to rest the continued requests by next of kin.
I am sorry that my responce seemed to 'ice' your question.
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Whoops...*snaps to attention and salutes* sorry for firing on your plane as you came in for a landing at this here field, Major Aiken. :-)  
Seiously, I kind of missed your meaning back there, and a thousdand pardons for my "ice" comment.
Your idea is quite good and I would be very happy to try to help solve this vexing engima of Pearl Harbor.
Oh yes, one other incident that comes to mind is that at Kaneohe Naval Air station, a Zero pilot from HIMS Hiryu strafed a house in the officer's quarters....much to the displeasure of an admiral (not Yamaguchi, it was one of his deputies I think) on the Hiryu when this pilot confessed about it.  Pragne's book "December 7th, 1941", from which I myself first read of this incident, does not mention any women or children being hit in this incident though the possibility remians that there was.
I just object to those who try to paint such a chaotic picture of the attack on Pearl Harbor that they depict Commander Fuchida and his men as almost akin to the zombies from "Resident Evil".  What happened on December 7th, 1941 was tragic enough.  We don't need to compound it with old propaganda, especially since it hinders helping heal the old wounds between us and Japan as well as hobbles the cause of remembering Pearl Harbor.
Thus endeth my op ed. :-)

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