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I am looking for suggestions on where to start reading about Pearl Harbor - what book should I read first? I would like to be able to complete a few books before the movie comes out - so that I can see how accurate the film is or is not.
Please let me know what you liked about your book selection.
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Start with the facts:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/

(Added bonus, it's free.)

Then read Gordon Prange's "At Dawn We Slept."

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I have also become newly interested in the Pearl Harbor attack, and am also looking for a short list of titles. I thought I would first try the books that explain the attack as an attempt by the Roosevelt administration to get isolationist America into the War via the back door.

A good general introduction from this perspective would be the 1947 George Morgenstern book Pearl Harbor:The Story of the Secret War. If anyone knows a better intoduction from this point of view, please let me know. Would appreciate it.

Steve


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Steve, I question why you would persue that particular angle for your reading as it has been more than adequately disproved.  The conspiracy theory was claimed by a number of authors who have all since been found to be manipulating their data strictly to promote their theory.  So, why bother researching a "dead horse", and simply learn the truth.  It is amazingly enough, quite available, even through older sources.

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Brian,
It's not a dead horse to me.
I don't believe you have read the Morgenstern book, have you?
His book seems to me to be fairly well documented, and he provides his readers with an awful lot of information. I don't know whether he covers all the main issues, or if he slants his material, but, as it stands written, he makes a very strong case for conspiracy.
I don't know what his motivation might have been in researching and writing this book, but it appears to me to be straightforward and honest.
As I've said, I don't believe you've read this book, otherwise you would not dismiss it so lightly.
If you have read the book, and can remeber the main points, perhaps you will enlighten me about how he has manipulated his facts.
While it is certainly true that very early works may be short on all currently available knowledge, it may well be true that books like Morgenstern's may be long on honesty.
As we all must be aware, simply by observing the 9/11 fiasco, there are many people who make a living through disinformation, obfuscation, and other psy ops manuveurs.
I see no reason to believe otherwise about the Pearl Harbor tragedy.
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Aloha Steve,
The 1947 George Morgenstern book Pearl Harbor:The Story of the Secret War is wildly outdated and heavily biased toward the disproven thesis that FDR caused the war in the Pacific to get Hitler to declare war on the USA. There are somewhat better volumes that tried to deliver the same message but the thesis...nay, hypothesis...nay, stupidity is folly.

I suggest that you begin anew with your search for facts which support a thesis that FDR was going to the aid of China by attacking Japan in April 1942.

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David,
Thanks for the input and suggestion. Of course, you realize your opinions are just that. Only your opinions. I don't believe you have a stranglehold on the "truth". The Morgenstern book appears to me to be a well-thought-out and researched book. I will continue along this line of investigation.
Would you be willing to provide me with a short list of the "somewhat better" books that imply FDR's foreknowledge? Or anyone else for that matter?
Thanks in advance.
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Aloha...
As Larry said,
Quote (Larry Jewell @ April 22 2001,21:25)
Start with the facts:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/

(Added bonus, it's free.)

Then read Gordon Prange's "At Dawn We Slept."

Larry J



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David,
I see now what the problem is. You claimed there were "somewhat better" books about the attack, but when I asked you the names of some of them, you gave me some irrelevant info.
Once again, I'm looking for BOOKS that imply or suggest foreknowledge on Washington's part.
Since you claim to be some kind of "historian", despite YOUR obvious bias, you may have read some of the books you disagree with.
You may have even read the Morgenstern book, although there's no reason to believe that.
Can you give me a shortlist, or not?
Thanks in advance.
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Please read...and as the facts comfort you, please tell us about the fly on the wall in IJN HQ which told FDR, and only him, the words "Pearl Harbor".

Quote (Larry Jewell @ April 22 2001,21:25)
Start with the facts:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/pha/

(Added bonus, it's free.)

Then read Gordon Prange's "At Dawn We Slept."

Larry J



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